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On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. 2. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. What this shows is their weakness. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). i think they both have there place . They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Search is arguably most important feature of stocks and search in TS is head and shoulders (and then some more) above search in CGT. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. Yes CGtrader is great! Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment What, iterateCGI goos down? You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. ;). He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. We are currently working to redesign the homepage to show off both CG and 3D print ready models. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. How Can we get 94% of Royalty?? A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. And reasons can be any. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. CGtrader is everything Ts is not, CGtader is fair, its open and communicative in all directions, its an inexpensive service, its new and more efficient, has lots of exiting tools, have more sales and get to keep bigger part, its growing fast, its updating and improving fast, etc, etc,. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ The basic approach would be that every user start with a selection of a store template (including own label option and menu creation capability's) and starts filling his store with own products and products found in the large collective database. Basically giving your money to a tyrant of a service, not even free to set price on your own products accordingly. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. But we forgot about the buyers. So true! CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. Delhi Escort TS can go to Hell, and never return again. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. Dear adentonclark, Agree with every word. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. Bangalore Escort And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. CGTrader. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. just 2 years ago still existed. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. This is my principle decision . @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . I will very much want to peruse. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. Think about your future: However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. Chat with Support 24/7 In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. The site owners could also act on other various levels : Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. An important factor for many buyers is the possibility of cash transactions in the system WebMoney. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGTrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money! I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags Renderer: Cyclse. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Doesn't seem so. Payment Method This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. my main income its still TS. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. 3. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. It takes way too long to put up any files. Realistic Female 3D Model. Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. In place already. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. I like how there is no join up fee. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. ,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Remember The3DStudio? Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. You could have a superman body with an iron man head and spiderman gloves. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. So if you think about that when we try selling just 3D models we are actually loosing a great deal of the market. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. As a game developer i will never buy a 3d models online since 95% are done on student version of software or pirated version. Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. . They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. video services, 3D viewers, social media , crowd funding platforms, etc.) Turbosquid is the exact opposite. Regards, I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. Every vendor who is exclusive is losing money and customers. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. I hope I'll have better selling results there. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. They customize those figures anyway you want. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. It is all about customer reputation and perception. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? I hope someone someday will take the concept behind old cgtrader This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. That is a serious problem because it means a whole lot more work for sellers and I wish they would just get with the program. Right now, low quality models flooding this site are attracting the low budget people - that's certainly why high quality objects with pricings in accordance don't sell that much. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . Thanks once again! I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. This is the Tesla Model 3. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! i like the points system on cg trader . A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1.
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