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I know I am saved by Grace alone. The GCC Elders are arrogant and cant see arrogance in others David Gray. If you do not have time to hear the entire 48 minute video, then I highly recommend hearing Q6 How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [who lacks assurance]? It means that these believers use The Bible to align with their views and prejudices, which takes precedence; they dont deny themselves to follow Christ. Ive done things Im not proud of, but most people dont have the power, celebrity, influence, and even adoration that John MacArthur has. I am convinced that the problem we have is two fold: 1. Ligonier Ministries is "the teaching fellowship of R.C. I agree with your view. His character must be exemplary. The Ligonier Conference 2021was titled Right Now Counts Forever. Whatever Elders do at GCC, it is somehow distinct from Leadership. JRR acts like judge and jury! The one thing I will never question is that my faith is Anchored in God alone no man, ministry, church or Denomination will change my faith. And this is a pattern for him. With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake in the present, but infinitely more. He should be held to the same standards to which he holds everyone else. Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. But nothing brings a person or an event to life like being there. For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. Join us on November 12-13, 2021, for our conference in Detroit as we plumb the depths of divine mercy in Ephesians 1 together. To donate, supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions, Opinion: John MacArthur and We vs. They. You are just Christian or you are not. Former Elder at John MacArthurs Church Confronts Awful Patterns of Endangering Abuse Victims, https://julieroys.com/pastor-alves-accused-grooming-girls-still-ministry/, Eden Village Ministry Aims to End Homelessness Through Tiny Home Communities, Gateway Seminary to Fund Short-Term Mission Trips for All Students, Vineyard Pastor Resigns, Wont Cooperate With Probe Into Sons Alleged Misconduct, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. One of the best ways you can learn about a person or even an event is being thereto be on site. This article was shared on Facebook 1.1K times, so clearly many agree with its newsworthiness. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? He confessed to punishing too harshly with a belt and rod, striking his kids on the head and feet and not being appropriately dressed when he was with his daughter. Only the blood of Jesus can do this and it is received freely as a gift by his grace to those who believe. Christianity is a faith that must be put into practice. Best $ Off Code. Be among the first to get R.C. John Mac Arthur is a great expositor but he failed at being a good Pastor in this case. I am appalled at this attack and my heart is saddened that so many open the door wide for anything that takes our eyes off of Him and let the devil try to soil a good man and his ministry. He answered Julie very disrespectful when she reported on Macarthurs homes. Virtually every church (fundamental churches, evangelical churches, or liberal gatherings calling themselves churches, as well as synagogues and cults) handle child abuse allegations the pretty much the same way. Neither the church nor MacArthur has responded. He lumps everything together into one gospel called lordship salvation and tells you, if you havent laid down your life to christ and you still have sin in your life, then you should question your salvation. (Ive read other reports where photos of unrelated people (as students in school and now pastors) lambasted for offering to babysit. We urge you to sign upto receive our FREE need to read articles. Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music COUNSELOR LOGIN | U.S. STORE | CANADA STORE. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Stream all of the messages from last weeks 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. Too many Christians hide behind judge least ye be judged. Don't forgettomorrow is the last Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. When Moses spoke with God, was that a real manifestation of God or what? (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. The Ligonier app allows you to: Log in to access your purchased teaching series and conference messages Download audio messages for offline playback Cast video and audio to connected. The real gospel says its not about what we do for christ, its about what he did for us. Questions & Answers with Godfrey, Lawson, Nichols, Parsons, and Thomas. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And that it doesnt cost us anything, its a GIFT FREELY received by those who BELIEVE. We can even create the scene in our minds eye. Julies reporting is biblically sound. A Continuing Reformation Pittsburgh 2021 Conference - Ligonier Ministries Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. We are encouraged by scripture to believe the best, to assume someone is telling the truth unless its proven otherwise. [40:30 48m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMuLTFOGPx8. Assuming that the same person will have these very different skills would seem to be a foundational error in many cases. Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.James 3:1. Hes taken the job and the money and is accountable. But in reality none of us were there and we have to wait for the truth to come out. God bless Pastor John and his church family. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. All these gotcha websites, some of it is good and healthy, but some of it is just digging and digging. You are a follower of a cult leader. **1 Cor 6:6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers! There are always consequences for words and deeds, unfortunately Mr. Gray broke the law. He needs to be biblically qualified and he isnt. Its at the expense of John Mac Arthurs life long work as well. If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. . Ligonier Camp and Conference Center is a Christian outdoor adventure summer camp and retreat center located in the beautiful Laurel Highlands of western Pennsylvania. Ligonier Pittsburgh Conference 2021 - Highlights - YouTube 0:00 / 3:19 Ligonier Pittsburgh Conference 2021 - Highlights 3,341 views Oct 4, 2021 230 Dislike Share Save Kuiper Belt. If Julie Roys found out about them, yikes. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Sproul, and explains how the teaching of Ligonier Ministries has shaped his thinking and touched his life. As Christians are pushed toward the margins of a hostile society, we cannot afford to surrender our convictions or to retreat in fear. Tim Sykes who gives you the ability to believe. All of this is spinning out of control, w/everyones comments & personal opinions. As a reminder. How is this what you are doing??? Rape your kids, beat your spouse, commit crimes, go to the cops. You do know that John MacArthur is in his 80s. Jesus is Lord. Your joys, pains, sacrifices, and triumphs last for a moment before disappearing forev If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. Due to his visibility, I believe his hubris has tarnished both. While Im great full for GTYs ministry in past years I question what was going on then that none of us knew. Lone-pastor/senior-pastors surrounded by subordinates are less likely to receive guidance like what is offered now before the blunder is made and the damage is done. 27. A particular thought pattern now permeates our civic discourse: We dont have to believe what they say, because they are dishonest, unfair. As was pointed out in this Roy report! Julie Roys is truly exposing the true lies from John MacArthur and his associates at the Grace Community Church. John MacArthur, however, is a constant at the top of both groups. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. Total Codes. Ligonier Ministries is an international Christian discipleship organization founded by theologian Dr. R.C. If they had we wouldnt be having this discussion. It is kind of like a baby with a pacifierJM tickles the ears of these work horses. Panel Discussion: R.C. If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? It sends out mixed messages. How in the world would she do that if she is not a member of GCC? The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. NO ADS! Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:41. Is this man so far above everyone that he must be protected and given such a level of loyalty that he cannot be perceived as even being capable of making a mistake? We can certainly learn from reading and studying. Fix that problem! It was a 3-day conference. Others had been Cadets or counselors themselves at some point and were happy to become reacquainted. Believing is contrasted with working many times in scriptures. Ironically, the John MacArthur I admired for so long, is now the one continuously worthy of being publicly criticized. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Grace even helped Gray launch and run a ministry in the prison, called Grace Prison Fellowship. [9] Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. Okay so I dont know who you are or what you believe. Hi. Thank you Debra Howard well said and i too have the same thoughts the Julie Roys ministry is important. He is human. Plumbing the depths of divine mercy in Ephesians 1, we will strive to better understand Gods unfolding plan of redemption and our place in it, helping us live each day to the praise of His glorious grace. Now is our time to stand with unrelenting devotion to Gods unchanging Word. 2. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. With training in behavioral disorders (especially narcissist behavior disorders), Im not going to jump on the bandwagon here. Sproul's new book. I was thinking the same thing. why didnt Ligonier take a stand against FBO as well? 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. Am I Right With God Pastor Patrick Hines sheeplywolves, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey sheeplywolves, Not By Works Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey. The work being done by Julie, along with that of Warren Cole Smith and others, is aimed at an appropriate level of accountability, as well as showing the world that we Christians do expect better from our leaders. No One Knows. ; Dan Bonville. We know enough of the story to call a man to repentance. I hope and pray that the horrific treatment by JM and his henchman to this lady and her children did not break their faith. 1 Peter 5:8-11 NKJV Yes, he is too accountable. To shame and reject an abused wife and her abused children is reprehensible behavior and it is especially so when the one doing the shaming is an influential church leader. Christs apostle Paul did not instruct, let her remain shamed away from the church.. 16:13). Thank you Cherul Unruh for being brave enough to say so. Id hardly call what MacArthur did to Eileen Grays to be an act of kindness and service. He many have had to cancel because he is not well, just as he said. Please let us know at info@calvinistcadets.org! I will point out that there is a higher standard for those who are in ministry. If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. These allegations dont detract from his work in the slightest. 13:8). Dont forgettomorrow is the last day to save 50% on admission to the 2022 National Conference in Orlando. Ligonier Ministries partners with Sovereign Tours, a Florida Seller of Travel #ST35876. GHH, John Mac Arthur is a great expositor but he failed at being a good Pastor in this case.. That church is absolutely egregious on covering up a sexual predator, but the Lord will tell you that you should never help that wicked. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth.} Point blank, period, end of discussion. But nothing, not even a public apology. He is very prideful, if he was truly humble he would apologise to the woman, that he shamed. It is not to be handled by elders in private and a decision abruptly announced by the lone pastor/teacher. You will also have rich times of fellowship with your fellow travelers, meeting kindred spirits and making friendships. Unless they presume to be sinless, why wouldnt they simply humbly graciously admit to the wrong they did and ask for forgiveness ? Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. June 28, 2021 at 6:51 pm. May the consequences of his actions draw him closer to the Lord in full repentance and even thank God that he was stopped. 2023 National Conference | Ligonier Ministries Events Grace Community Church was given a *written confession* by David Gray before MacArthur publicly shamed her for not submitting to him. The world around us is constantly changing, yet Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. It is sad, but this isnt looking good for anyone involved, especially believers. Ive committed terrible sins in my past. Considering the horrors that the victim in this story was put through by her husband, as well as by John MacArthur and his henchmen, wouldnt you like to see at least some indication of MacArthur having a contrite spirit about this? An elder must be above reproach. (Screengrab from MacArthur speaking at 2021 Ligonier conference.) During this eight-day study cruise, Ligonier Teaching Fellows Drs. This is an ONGOING issue. All his friends will be asked their opinions about this putting them on the spot to address what John should have addressed but was too prideful to do so. Best Discount Code. The predator has groomed the elders elders and the congregation even before selecting the victims. 2021 Winter Conference: Everyone's a Theologian. It didnt convict me John MacArthur did that all in his own so very sad. Spot on Tim Sykes. I was never comfortable with the way he publicly corrected others, including RC Sproul. View our current career opportunities. John MacArthur is very good at exposing the sins of others, but he doesnt do well when its time to expose his own Sins! I will miss his presents this year at Ligonier ministries conference. What are you talking about! October 21. The leadership always sides with the predator. I will try to write this as gently and respectfully as I can. Gather with others around God's truth in person and online. The Roys Report has repeatedly sought comment from MacArthur and GCC about the incidents involving David Gray and his wife. June 29, 2021 at 6:46 am . Session 1: June 18-23, $620, Ages 8-13, rising 3rd-8th grade Session 2: June 25-30 $620, Ages 8-13, rising 3rd-8th grade Session 3: July 2-7, $620, Ages 8-14, rising 3rd-9th graders . National Conference Sep 21-23, 2023 Atlanta, GA General Registration The Sovereignty of God God is sovereign over all. Since no one else shares the same title of Pastor/ Teacher as John there, it is prudent to conclude that John MacArthur is without equal at GCC and functions as the de facto senior pastor. Coddling a convicted wife and child abuser is beyond words. What is the Westminster Confession of Faith? His cancellation to join at the Ligoniers National Conference this coming week is his own alibi. He is one of the formost pastors in the world. He admitted to locking them in the closet, dropping/dragging them. 27. He seemed proud of his involvement in civil rights. I know that John MacArthurs ministry has blessed me for 50 years I have grown in my walk with the Lord I do not worship Man, but I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ we are all fallible,, and in need of grace. I am praying for draining the swamp of hypocrisy and lies of MacArthur and others. So unless youre one of the victims you dont have anything tosay that would be factual about the case. Guilty by association. You may as well say to a Christian policeman that he cant arrest anyone, in case the suspect turns out that they are Christian or claims to be. Blessed in Christ Detroit 2021 Conference - Ligonier Ministries There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Perhaps the man is truly sick. What is the future of reformed theology? It seems that you do. God bless you Julie, for exposing John Maccarthurs hippocrisy. 3) I am disgusted by Phil Johnsons description of Julie Roys and her reporting. Ding!) You realize that he and the whole of GCC have been supporting him since 2001, right? Founded in 1914 as an interdenominational ministry of the First Presbyterian Church of Pittsburgh, LCCC has a long history of ministry reaching campers across the United States and abroad. Unity does not come at the expense of truth and holiness as you are advocating. I know this from personal experience. The Apostle James provides some of Scriptures clearest guidance on how Christians should both hear what God has revealed and do what His Word commands. Staff members Steve Bootsma (Executive Director) and Russ Roozeboom (Marketing and Promotions Coordinator) traveled to Orlando, Florida to represent the Cadets ministry, plant seeds, and make connections that will help Cadets grow. All staff will receive a stipend for training weeks and then a weekly rate determined by their position and experience. Must a person forsake his sins to come to Christ? Danny de Armas, the senior associate pastor, infamously offered a full-blown ecumenical statement devoid of any Gospel truth and antithetical to the teachings of Scripture by highlighting how many illegal immigrants, pro-choice demoncrats, and LGBTQ folkwere serving in his church. Q4. We will also host a pre-conference event titled Global Missions. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. Bible believing Christians know that the Bible supports church discipline. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! This is the lowest registration rate we will offer. The child molester has learned the language and the customs of the church and has figured out the logic and the value system and theology of the elders. These men are wonderful brothers in the faith, many having decades long faithful ministries that have benefited an untold amount of believers.. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Five years ago, Sproul resigned from his father's organization, Ligonier Ministries, after being arrested for drunk driving with his underage kids in the car. The scripture tells us to mind our own business . May God bless all his children as we all seek his face! Nice try Tom. "Last Friday, the board of directors of Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College received and affirmed the resignation of Dr. R.C. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth. Your article is very one-sided. No. 2021 National Conference: Day Three Ligonier Ministries 550K subscribers Subscribe 1.3K 236K views Streamed 1 year ago With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake. Even when Jesus rebuked the Jews and flipped the table over in the temple it was done in front of believers. These men took 9 questions which are noted below. No one really knows FACTS. ), Progressive Govt. Over the course of the conference, Steve and Russ were able to talk to many people about the Cadets ministry. Not before an unbelieving world 20 yrs later. However, I hoped he was trying to protect the credibility of Gods holy word, and the testimony of His church. Now, for some reason, hes the expert and the medical community is part of some world order that has misled us on Covid-19 for evil purposes!?! Julie, I know you believe it is right, but all the scriptures you use to justify your type of reporting is not in context with the scriptures. Be among the first to get R.C. If Your Brother Sins Against You I believe he is in his 80s now. The conservative voice and Christian content are being silenced more and more. In MacArthurs case his higher calling needs higher scrutiny. It sounds like you are seeing these allegations as an isolated incident cherry picked from his past, where many of us are seeing this as proof of how he operates. Its a bit like serving up a five star Gourmet meal from a budget take-out food bento box. I do not have any other details and would encourage you to reach out to Dr. MacArthurs office. You know, it is certainly possible that he is indeed sick. Any public rebuke was done in front of believers and were written to believers. That is not the right way to judge Christian brothers. We have transgender, LGBTQ, straight, single, married, divorced and cohabitating people. Sproul, and considered the calling of every . Give him and us a break please! I dont think I have to point out beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks. Saturday, Dr. Steve Lawson posted a picture to Instagram of MacArthur , Steve Jones, and Lawson golfing. Gods got this! Its scary to repent of your past but know that someone could dig it up easily. Join us on November 1213, 2021, for our conference in Detroit. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Most institutional church men cannot help but earn their salvation. Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. Together, we commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, celebrated the ministry of our founder and first president, Dr. R.C. He is a LEADER who behaved disgraceful and led others to do the same. If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. GCC was given his confession. **Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge anothers servant? 2) Why did not the church report the attempted murder, yes that is what he confessed to in writing, to the police. You use 1 Tim 5:20 as justification to take these matters public, but come on, we both know when it says everyone it is in the context of everyone in the church not the world at large. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. B/c something is reported or judged, doesnt mean its fact. It is wrong. All your examples in The case for Christian investigative reporting are always in the context of the church. beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks by those who hate God. Sproul in 1971 to equip Christians to articulate what they believe, why they believe it,. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. In the process, may exposed charlatans move on to another grift in shame and dishonor. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. A good man obtains favor from the Lord, but a man of wicked intentions He will condemn. (Proverbs 12:2) I no longer support John MacArthur because his intentions seem to have shifted from revealing Gods will, to using his platform to conform others to his will. Sproul so often reminded us, right now counts forever. They have left the safe path, that church leadership that deviates from the instruction and example from the Apostles and elders in the New Testament, the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. At age 20, Eileen known to many by her previous, Hohn Cho, a lawyer and former elder at John MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC), accused the influential California megachurch of awful patterns. Cheryl, very reasonable response by you. Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. Sproul Jr. Ligonier Ministries 421 Ligonier Ct Sanford, FL 32771 Telephone Number: +1 (800) 435-4343 Email Address: info@ligonier.org. Did you assume you were being told the truth about resting for the conference when he had covid? Ding! Soon, we will cut off everybody because everyone is connected to someone in a way. The Q & A portion of the conference would be a snake pit to navigate right now. Friday morning, The Roys Report noticed that MacArthur had been removed from the conference website and tweeted about the discovery. Unfortunately w Steve Lawson so entrenched in both MacArthur and Ligonier ministries I have to break from both. I have faith in the teaching of Pastor John and can see there are constant attacks on his ministry to compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. Live from our National Conference, John MacArthur speaks on the eternal significance of God's holiness and how He has made His people holy in Christ. Isnt a pastor a mandatory reporter by law. They dont need signs. The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? The Ligonier Ministries site requires Javascript, but youve got Javascript disabled. He revered medical professionals who helped he and his family during their life -threatening emergencies. Is the fact that MacArthur missing a conference really newsworthy? 5) If John or his ministry does not respond then it will wrongly fall to his peers to awkwardly be targeted. Those include: The Providence of God; Serving God in the Digital Age; The Church in Africa; Discipling the Next Generation; Teaching the Truth. To his own master he stands or falls. Now we have law enforcement to handle the criminal elements. He sure did not. View our current career opportunities. When a preacher, who doesnt meet those conditions, preaches from the pulpit even when he is biblically accurate but then fails to walk the walk and seems only able to talk the talk, he then fails to respect the very reason for being allowed to preach in the first place. MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). Ligonier 2021 Pittsburgh Conference. Cynthia Wright. View our current career opportunities. Have you seen the email that went out to the church asking people to give money to his defense? Nor should you try to tarnish anyone whitout facts. Are we so deceived by men that we find it impossible for John to need to be in need of correction? 1) I was shocked the wife tried to formally withdraw from Grace To You church in writing they said they literally would not let her withdraw. He makes excuses because he is siding with the predator, David Gray. This is devasting to me. And he also lied and said that he was sick, when clearly he wasnt, because he went golfing. A person who is saved by faith in Jesus will display the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, etc. You will meet these figures in ways you have never met them before. On March 18-20, 2021, Ligonier Ministries hosted its 2021 National Conference, celebrating fifty years since the ministry's founding. And remember he and his wife were resting during their absence from the pulpit when it came out later that they actually had the Covid virus.
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